On the pay side, when you talk about benefits I don't think we want to be a place where it's all about money. I know in other countries it has become that. As Commodore MacKeigan will tell you, many of the recruits understand that very early on. The pay is actually very, very good. After five years in a specialist trade, you are making very good money.
I think not giving people everything right up front does a number of things. They have to wait for it. I remember that I had to live off orange crates and all that in my house. I'm not saying that's where it is today—that's the struggle I have with my children. But at the end of the day I think that financially it's pretty good in the forces. We don't need to go to benefits at this point in time.