Yes, and I guess I would agree with that, it's not either/or, and the Canadian Forces, for one organization, do a good job of both.
Mr. Regehr, General Vance said recently that insurgencies aren't defeated, they dissolve, and they dissolve over time, I guess, by bringing together government and the people. And it's becoming more and more clear that what we are doing in Afghanistan is trying to bring together the government and the people. And it's changed from purely, obviously, kinetic operations or more of an emphasis on kinetic operations to governance training and development, that sort of thing.
What do you see as a longer-term role for Canada in Afghanistan in that training development, capacity building, and so on? From your point of view, what should the Canadian Forces look like for peace operations down the road post-Afghanistan?