Okay.
If we achieve our $3 billion objective, you would calculate that 30% of that is the cost of people, and if you run that over 20 years you'll have 9,000 jobs. That breaks down to a standing group of 450 a year, so 450 people in new or saved jobs, and they continue throughout the whole 20 years. If the 30% is low, then it's more than that. If we look at what Canada would gain, $12 billion instead of $3 billion--that's four times that. So it's a significant number of jobs.
Will they all be brand-new jobs? Maybe not. When the F-18 stops flying, some jobs there will transfer over. When the F-404 engine stops being run, some jobs will be transferred from that over to the new ones. But otherwise, those jobs would be lost. The way most governments count jobs, that's exactly as I've described it.