That's a good point. Every quarter I chair a meeting of the defence industry advisory committee, which includes the CEOs and presidents of about 15 major Canadian companies. Every 90 days, we spend an afternoon and have very frank conversations. They find that extremely helpful.
Tim Page, the chair of CADSI, is in that group. Mr. Lajeunesse, from the aerospace industry association, is in that group. That is our forum, in which we have really honest conversations.
Perhaps I'll go back to your second previous question, sir, about where we can improve our processes. My sense is that we need to integrate our efforts and have a Public Works and DND bilateral effort. We need to synchronize our teams so that we're doing one job once, and we need to change the culture so we can do that more efficiently. We could perhaps have joint sign-off sequences that we would do once in our buildings.
I don't think it's really an issue of Industry Canada or Treasury Board Secretariat or the other players. My process goes right from problem to definition to disposal. Public Works plays that key contracting piece in there, and that's where we need to target the most efficient activity with the most efficient use of, effectively, PG procurement specialists.
Mr. Ring and I are going to work very hard on that.