The solution is that a lot of the work that DCC is undertaking now is outside their mandate. They're doing the small jobs on the bases, where their mandate is to look after the bigger administration of the construction of buildings. The resources are inside the department to do that work. Rely on the existing public sector to do it. The skills are there. That's the solution. As people retire in the department, DCC is becoming the shadow public service because the department is not backfilling those positions. They're going to DCC, which will contract out the work that could be done by the public service, instead of recruiting the public sector.
On February 7th, 2012. See this statement in context.