Yes, and in the construction engineering trades, we realized, because of the demographics of our membership, they were getting to be a more seasoned workforce, and some day they would retire from those skilled trades. We were able to negotiate with Treasury Board, in our collective agreements, very clear language on an apprenticeship program to replenish those skills. The Canadian government recognized that six years ago and put in an apprenticeship program. The Department of National Defence recognized it. There is annual funding of $25 million for new apprentices coming in to replenish the stock. That's where you see the academic part of it coming into play.
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