Right. You can't cut back the forces people very much more. We've just talked about how you need to have something.
My approach to this kind of thing is to understand the purpose of the armed forces. It is a group of people set aside by society for a special purpose, and that purpose is to use force, and sometimes deadly force, lawfully at the direction of the government. You can do all kinds of things—fight forest fires, find lost kids, and help people in desperate countries—but the primary purpose of the armed forces is to build combat capability. The primary purpose of the Department of National Defence is to maintain and sustain the armed forces when they're doing their basic purpose.
If you did purposeful—that's what I call it—transformation, you would look to things that are a drag on the purpose of the armed forces. That's where you find your efficiencies.