Such as governments resisting adding on to the logistic slush on the snowball year after year by having the department take on new administrative responsibilities: ombudsman for the armed forces, freedom of information acts.... All of these various reactions to the Auditor General's report create more demand for staff and more demand for resources. But when you have a frozen defence budget like we've had for many years, you start plucking people out of the combat arms part of the armed forces and putting them in headquarters. As Andy Leslie's report showed, 60% of the new money that went into the armed forces in the last few years went to headquarters to handle all of these little niggly problems.
We shouldn't fool ourselves to think that so-called past transformations are anything but budget cutting. They're not transformations to purpose; they're budget money-saving connections.
The chairman is going to cut me off here.