On a completely different subject, in my view, the consensus after the experience of Afghanistan is that using our defence resources or allied defence resources in support of nation building should only be done on a very targeted basis, in a very disciplined way.
Trying to have military people, commands, engaged with civilian-style institution building is highly problematic. We have heard that from the development community and the humanitarian community consistently over the years, even those that are pro military. But there is a role in training, which I think you implied earlier, certainly of foreign militaries and sometimes of police, and that's exactly how we're engaged in Afghanistan. Do you think this is a major task for which the Canadian Forces should be ready in the future?
You mentioned Africa. Obviously, we are engaged to some extent in Africa in this kind of task, but there are needs there and in some parts of Asia, Latin America, and so forth. Indeed, there are perhaps ongoing needs among some of our NATO allies in specialized fields in Europe. What is the scale of that challenge? We can't predict the future, but how do you assess the probability of our being involved in that field?