We're dealing with a very extraordinary circumstance, with the House of Commons putting a bill before the House, under the guise of a particular budget motion, that changes substantial legislation. We should be dealing with this. This has to be something that our committee can study.
We're trying to let this committee do its work. The idea is to do its work in public so that people will know what's going on. Talking about separating a piece of legislation so that it can actually be debated by Canadians—that's something that should be debated, and debated openly.
It's one thing to say it's a procedural motion and therefore you can't do it. But there's a substantive notion as to whether we actually have Parliament working. That's what we're dealing with here. It can't be that just because someone moves a motion to go in camera, all of a sudden this committee is shut down by the government members. Because that's what is going to happen here. When this goes to a vote, these people over here are going to say yes, we're going to go in camera. Then the motions they don't like will disappear. That's what is going to happen here. We all know that.
We're just exercising a charade. I am shocked, Mr. Chairman, that the rules of this committee and this House are being abused in this manner again and again by the government, under instructions, obviously, from on high. It's outrageous, and we're objecting to it.