Thank you for not asking me whether I thought my legal knowledge exceeded those two gentlemen's, because I would say that no, it definitely does not. I know that was a question in a prior hearing within this forum that I was dreading.
I can say that the problem with the summary trials, from my perspective, is the possibility of a criminal conviction and the stigma that is associated with that. I think that when Justice Lamer was directing his comments, and I know that when Justice LeSage was directing his comments, they did indicate that the provision of summary trials would be saved by section 1 as being a necessary part of military life.
The problem occurs when you're faced with the stigmatization of a criminal record and detention, even though it is military detention and we recognize that the purpose of military detention is to promote discipline and is more geared towards rehabilitation than jail is in the civilian context.
The problem would be a section 7 problem, I would say, in that you have the ability to be convicted on a criminal level and face that stigma without having the full procedural protections that would be afforded an accused person at a trial in a civilian context. That is the issue.