Evidence of meeting #69 for National Defence in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site.) The winning word was record.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Michael R. Gibson  Deputy Judge Advocate General of Military Justice, Office of the Judge Advocate General, Department of National Defence
André Dufour  Director, Law Military Personnel - Office of the Judge Advocate General, Department of National Defence
Erin Shaw  Committee Researcher

9:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Mr. Harris has the floor.

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NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

But if it gets there because it happens to be another type of offence, it has gone through a court martial, then it's there and it needs to be removed.

What I'm saying is if Parliament, in amending the Criminal Records Act to add section 6.1, felt it was required to put in that section to purge CPIC of an absolute discharge, or a conditional discharge after the conditions have been met and whatever follows—an automatic removal of that, if that was felt necessary—then why wouldn't it be necessary to put in an additional step that we're talking about here? This is to make sure the CPIC records are purged and we don't have people being denied entry to the United States, or whatever other consequences flow, which Justice LeSage pointed out in saying that he wanted “...to avoid consequences totally disproportionate to the violation”.

That's what we're trying to achieve. I think this section is not overly intrusive. It basically says that the references to those offences be removed from the CPIC database. That's our position.

9:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Okay. That's a motion from Mr. Harris for amendment NDP-21, reference number 5996241.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We're at clause 75 as amended.

Shall clause 75 carry as amended?

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An hon. member

On division.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

(Clause 75 as amended agreed to on division [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We're down to the short title.

Shall the short title carry?

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NDP

Christine Moore NDP Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

I request a recorded vote.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

A recorded vote?

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NDP

Christine Moore NDP Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

A recorded vote.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

On what, the short title?

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NDP

Christine Moore NDP Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Yes.

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An hon. member

Why?

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NDP

Christine Moore NDP Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Because I want it to be recorded.

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A voice

On division.

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NDP

Christine Moore NDP Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

It can be on division.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Okay, shall the short title carry?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

On division.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Shall the title carry?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

On division.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Shall the bill as amended carry?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

On division.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Shall I report the bill as amended to the House?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

Shall the committee order a reprint of the bill as amended for the use of the House at report stage?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Bezan

I want to thank our hard-working interpreters who had to keep up with all that very technical discussion. I appreciate that very much and for the time they put in.

I want to thank all the support staff, our analysts, and clerks who worked here.

I want to thank Colonel Gibson and Colonel Dufour for sticking it out to this late hour and to being here at previous meetings as technical witnesses. You may give them a round of applause if you wish.

[Applause]

Now I'll have a motion to adjourn.