What we're talking about, Chair, with respect, is how it is that certain offences are treated more seriously by the law, and in this particular case we're talking about what sounds like a significant offence, because it does have a maximum penalty or a range of sentences broader than some other offences. We're talking about this in the context of a scheme that has been devised, which says, “Okay, we have this offence here”, and we just list them. There's no principle put in place; there's no principle guiding this law.
If we look at clause 75, it doesn't say “less serious offences”, or anything like that. It says, “the following” listed “offences”. It simply provides a list. It provides no articulation of any principle. It's a list using numbers, which suggests that if a person is convicted of any of the following offences and a list is then produced and they receive a punishment of those four particular types of penalty, that person won't have a criminal record. I don't disagree with that—I think that's fine—but we're just adding to the list. If we add to the list something that can be petty, or, as we pointed out with disobeying an order, something that can be a very minor thing, then why should it attract a punishment in another context?