Mr. Chair, when I say our concern is shortage of mental health service providers, we do realize there's competition out there. I visited 18 bases. For this particular report we had a team that went to 10 specific bases to look at all this. What we found was—and this is what we're recommending in our report—the Canadian Forces should look at internal bureaucracy processes that could be improved in order to be more competitive and attract people.
I've been on bases. I think the system should delegate down to the ground where the problems are best resolved by those dealing with the issue. I've seen places where, to hire a mental health caregiver from the civilian street, the DND, the Canadian Forces system, the staffing bureaucracy has a freeze on hiring people, and people just go away. They don't stay there. We can decentralize that, look internally to DND, make the process more agile and able to hire people, maybe pay some people a bit more because there's competition in terms of money between public servants inside the system and contractors hired from Calian by DND. I'm saying within the system there needs to be something done better to attract those people, as you said, who are in competition with any other organization.