No. I'll rephrase that. Civilian doctors will get hired across Canada into medical clinics to augment the uniformed presence there. In psychiatry, you'll have psychiatrists who work in a military clinic and see military patients. They maintain an affiliation with the large hospital in their city or a clinical practice in their civilian life, and they develop an expertise and work within our medical system.
The people I was referring to and who would be interesting to invite to this committee are those who chose to leave. There are many who chose to leave because they were having a hard time, perhaps, in dealing with the fact that they were being paid more to see fewer patients, and they felt it was wrong, that it was simply wrong.