If I may, I think the general population has a lot to learn by looking at our mental health survey. We have eliminated in the military almost all of these terrific structural barriers that make it very hard for many Canadians to access careānot enough mental health providers, wait times are exceedingly long, people can't get services in the language they're most comfortable in, people can't pay for care, they can't get transportation to care. All these things are problems that we have fixed.
For that reason, when we looked at mental health seeking in the CF, even in 2002, our members with mental disorders were more likely than their civilian counterparts to have sought care for the same kinds of problems. So despite these special barriers that we're concerned about, our members also have special access to care. I think civilians can learn an awful lot from us.
In addition, if you look at us and contrast what we know about our employees with what the average civilian employer anywhere in Canada knows about the mental health of its workforce, we know so much more. However imperfect the picture I have, through my lens of research, about what's going on in terms of mental health in the CF, it far exceeds what Ford knows about its employees, or BlackBerry, or whomever.