I apologize for not being able to be here to listen to your presentations. I was giving a speech in the House of Commons, but I am glad to see you both here.
Thank you again, Ms. Sinclair, for coming to our committee. My first question is for you.
Canada-U.S. relations start with the Ogdensburg agreement, the so-called treaty by press release of five sentences.
You do note that the joint defence board—they tell us someone in the U.S. called it the peanut butter and jelly board, or something—the Permanent Joint Board on Defence still seems to be the major interactive group here on the, and I don't know if the official level is the right way of putting it, but certainly on the military and policy levels. You indicate there are 800 separate arrangements of one sort or another. I'm not sure we'll be able to review all them, Mr. Chair, for our defence of North America. It seems that we have a very complex relationship with the U.S.
The PJBD seems to be still operating as the prime relationship. How many members do we have? I gather MP Laurie Hawn is one member. I don't know if he's the senior member for Canada. Who else is on that board for Canada?