I have to admit to you that the world of cyber is a difficult world to understand. But as I understand it, when there is a vulnerability in the lines of code, which is what we're talking about in the cyberworld, there is an opportunity for an enemy to attack, but when the enemy does, he also exposes his own capability, including vulnerability. So the line between offensive and defensive action in cyber is not as simple as it is in, let's say, conventional warfare. There's nothing to be gained by taking a moralistic attitude that we will not do cyberoffence, because then you will not know much about cyberdefence either.
Therefore, we need to be working with our allies, including the United States and the Five Eyes—and I think we are already—to make sure that we are fully capable, because cyberattacks are not only a civilian domain but a military domain. We need to have a broad range of capabilities.