Okay. That's very effective questioning, Mr. Chair.
The member suggested that there has been no equipment obtained, except she forgets the five C-17 Globemasters, the 17 C-130J Hercules tactical aircraft, the 15 CH-147F Chinook helicopters, the modernization of the Hornets, the modernization of the Auroras, the modernization and refit of the Halifax-class frigates, the commencement of the largest shipbuilding program in peacetime history, the upgrades to the light armoured vehicles, the new fleet of tanks, armoured personnel carriers, and precision guided artillery, etc. Compared to the Liberal procurement from 1993 to 2005, a list of which I have right here, Mr. Chairman....
Her leader refers to our CF-18 modernized Hornets as “aging warplanes”. I can tell you that's not how ISIL feels about them right now, Mr. Chairman.
I will say that if the member wants yet again—I know that she has been on this committee for a while—a detailed explanation about how capital spending moves from one year to another based on a number of factors, I'm sure that ADM Finn or other officials would be happy to provide that to her.
None of this is, as she characterizes it, clawed back. She must know by now that that is simply a false assertion. None of it is clawed back. To the contrary, central agencies—Treasury Board and so forth—have thankfully given to the Department of National Defence the ability to profile into future years moneys for the accrual budget that are not actually expended. Would the member have us instead lose the money in a given year if we're not prepared to accept equipment because it's not yet ready? You know, when you're dealing with $110 billion, grosso modo, in the accrual budget over 20 years, it's not all going to be spent in exactly the years that you planned. There are going to be some changes in terms of timing. The member, I think, should....
I'll leave it to Ms. Bossenmaier to respond if she has the time, Mr. Chair.