Good. I'll give you an example.
We would go down to the PKSOI at the U.S. Army War College, which is their equivalent of our Pearson centre. We would host a seminar where we would have a few international participants. We would have maybe U.S. joint command at the table. We would have USAID. We would fly down some Canadian representatives from government. We would have a very robust discussion on what, at that point in time, the new comprehensive operations were all about, what hybrid operations were all about, how you can conduct joined-up operations, the different levels and strengths of different influences around the table, and whose perspective mattered in particular aspects of an operation.
It was in order to not only build relationships amongst the actors at the table but also to become very aware of the world view and identities of those groups. When one perhaps was deployed, or one came back to Canada and was in a government department, you could more easily understand a defence world view, a development world view, or a Ghanaian policing world view. It was a way to bridge the knowing-doing gap.