What would be the recommendation there? It's almost like you need to bring a whole group along. How can we do that? Is there a recommendation around that? If you don't have it now, I would encourage you to try to send something in. That's for both of you.
Again, this has just come to me. It's almost like a truth and reconciliation within, maybe, when you actually do it. You have to acknowledge it. It's almost like you can pass through the barrier and get to the other side.
Maybe I'll ask my general question. Maybe you're not the right people to ask in terms of how we can bring more men along. You're right—you can't force anyone to change. It's more than just showing them different situations about the light; it's addressing some of the fears that are inside. Maybe that's what we need to do.
What are your thoughts on that? I don't know if you have anything else to add.