I think we have the numbers. It's a matter of ensuring that our individuals who are in Bold Eagle at that very young age are exposed to those role models who are able to resonate and connect with them. I'm not saying just first nations, but those who have the experience.
For us, it's the role models. It's someone who is your race and who you see as successful.
Coming out of Bold Eagle we've had a few officers—two of whom I know specifically—who are now back in civilian life. One is a chief and another is a consultant. But our most steady focus on our success as first nations people is a gentleman by the name of General Paul. He's out of Loretteville in Quebec, but he is first nation. I've had the pleasure of crossing paths with General Paul when he was out west. I use him as an influence on the young by saying, "You could be this.”
The more models we have.... In Bold Eagle, we try to ensure the training staff are first nation, and then we have the support staff who are RCMP or city police for that one week of cultural training. But getting them from there into the reserves, and then into the regs, the armed forces, still remains a challenge.