Hopefully this is my last intervention. I have to respond to what Mr. Gerretsen was saying. He's saying that the Privy Council Office is not a political operation, yet what we learned from the SNC-Lavalin scandal and listening to Michael Wernick when he was sitting at the end of the table at the justice committee was that it was complete political operations and motive and political-speak. That also brings into question what his operations were during the Mark Norman affair. He was still the Clerk of the Privy Council during this entire process. Who actually went to the RCMP to lay the charges? Was it him? We also have the Prime Minister saying it was the chief of the defence staff.
There are a lot of different issues out there that we need to get to the bottom of. I would hope that when you look at the bigger picture of what happened to Mark Norman, the correlation of how it relates to what happened to Jody Wilson-Raybould in the SNC-Lavalin scandal, you will see that there is a need to have this investigation, and, at the very least, support Mr. Garrison's amendment to allow Vice-Admiral Mark Norman to come to a safe place where he.... As Mr. O'Toole just pointed out, he cannot get involved in the politics and the partisanship as a member of the Canadian Armed Forces, but we can provide him an opportunity to have a place where he can actually tell his story, and Canadians can make their own decisions.