Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Commander Hansen and Commodore Lerhe, thank you both for your service to our nation, but equally important, thank you for your service through the policy world, which is very important especially at this juncture.
Commander Hansen, I want to take you back to portions of your testimony. With the Matthew Gillis study, you're saying the navy is simply too small for a country our size. He did some research and he said it's actually about half too small. Is that strictly for domestic defence purposes, or does that include the overseas roles that Commodore Lerhe has served in, in 2002-03?