Evidence of meeting #32 for National Defence in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was going.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Mark Norman  Vice Chief of the Defence Staff, Department of National Defence
John Forster  Deputy Minister, Department of National Defence
Jaime Pitfield  Assistant Deputy Minister, Infrastructure and Environment, Department of National Defence
Patrick Finn  Assistant Deputy Minister, Materiel, Department of National Defence
Greta Bossenmaier  Chief, Communications Security Establishment
Claude Rochette  Chief Financial Officer and Assistant Deputy Minister, Finance, Department of National Defence
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Philippe Grenier-Michaud

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Vice Chief of the Defence Staff, Department of National Defence

VAdm Mark Norman

The actual mechanism is coordinated between joint operations command, who are employing the forces in theatre, and the units from which they are generated back home. They all have the same standard, and they all go through a decompression, but it's different depending on what specific part of the mission they have been on, what rotation cycle they are on, and who their host of origin is. The air components go through a slightly different process than the special operations folks, and—

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Conservative

Cheryl Gallant Conservative Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke, ON

Do they have time in some place where they can talk to people—

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Vice Chief of the Defence Staff, Department of National Defence

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Conservative

Cheryl Gallant Conservative Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke, ON

—they need to talk to, and get—

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Vice Chief of the Defence Staff, Department of National Defence

VAdm Mark Norman

Exactly as the minister said, based on our extensive experience from over a decade of doing this. Yes, ma'am.

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Conservative

Cheryl Gallant Conservative Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke, ON

Thank you.

Once Daesh is driven out of Mosul, what plans are in place on the part of Canada to go after them in Raqqa?

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Liberal

Harjit S. Sajjan Liberal Vancouver South, BC

I didn't hear the last bit.

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Conservative

Cheryl Gallant Conservative Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke, ON

What plans are in place to go after Daesh once they are driven out of Mosul to Raqqa?

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Liberal

Harjit S. Sajjan Liberal Vancouver South, BC

For...?

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Conservative

Cheryl Gallant Conservative Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke, ON

What plans are in place for our troops?

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Liberal

Harjit S. Sajjan Liberal Vancouver South, BC

Right now we have no plans for this. The situation in Syria is extremely complex. Right now, if you talk about Syria in general, you have Russia's involvement and you have Turkey's as well. It is extremely complex.

Now is not the right time to be sending any troops into Syria and into Raqqa. Our efforts right now are in Iraq.

If the situation in Syria does change, we will always assess the situation based on consultations with our allies, but right now, we do not have, or intend to have, any involvement in Syria.

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Conservative

Cheryl Gallant Conservative Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke, ON

For the purposes of expenditures in supplementary estimates (B), was anyone from the Canadian Armed Forces or DND required to sign a non-disclosure agreement?

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Liberal

Harjit S. Sajjan Liberal Vancouver South, BC

For supplementary estimates (B)?

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Conservative

Cheryl Gallant Conservative Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke, ON

For expenditures in supplementary estimates (B).

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Deputy Minister, Department of National Defence

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Conservative

Cheryl Gallant Conservative Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke, ON

James, go ahead.

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Conservative

James Bezan Conservative Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman, MB

Thank you.

In vote 1(b), there is a transfer to support joint research grant projects. What would those grant projects entail, and would they be in support of the replacement of our CF-18 fleet?

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Deputy Minister, Department of National Defence

John Forster

Which transfer are you referring to, specifically?

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Conservative

James Bezan Conservative Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman, MB

Vote 1(b) from National Defence to Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council.

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Deputy Minister, Department of National Defence

John Forster

I can speak to that.

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Conservative

James Bezan Conservative Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman, MB

It's $192,000.

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Deputy Minister, Department of National Defence

John Forster

Yes, there's $192,000 this year. None of that, as far as I know, is related to the CF-18s. We will give it to NSERC to transfer to universities or others to do grants in areas of interest and priority to us.

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Conservative

James Bezan Conservative Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman, MB

In vote 5(b), there's a transfer in National Defence to a number of different government agencies for responding to and providing advice to the Government of Canada's public safety and security policy imperatives.

Was any of that security policy related to the need to increase the number of fighter jets available for the defence of Canada and North America?

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Deputy Minister, Department of National Defence

John Forster

To the best of my knowledge—we manage a program on behalf of the government. Other departments submit applications for research in the areas of national security. As the money is going to the RCMP, Natural Resources, Canadian Food Inspection Agency, Nuclear Safety Commission, they wouldn't be doing—

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Conservative

James Bezan Conservative Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman, MB

Also under 1(b), there's $3 million for the defence procurement strategy. Does that include the Super Hornets?