National Defence Committee on June 13th, 2017

[The Chair, Liberal, Stephen Fuhr]

We're voting on Cheryl's amendment to have one public televised meeting on issue moved by Mr. Bezan.

All those in favour? Opposed?

[Cheryl Gallant, Conservative, Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke, ON]

I didn't hear whether Mr. Robillard said yes or no.

[Yves Robillard, Liberal, Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC]

I'm against.

(Amendment negatived: nays 5; yeas 4)

[The Chair, Liberal, Stephen Fuhr]

So we go back to Mr. Bezan's original motion. It is still on the table.

[Leona Alleslev, Liberal, Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON]

We need to propose an amendment.

[The Chair, Liberal, Stephen Fuhr]

That would make sense, yes.

[James Bezan, Conservative, Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman, MB]

Yes, an amendment.

[Darren Fisher, Liberal, Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS]

Could we change the word “study” to “briefing”, and then if we're not going to be televised, would we consider doing it in camera?

[Cheryl Gallant, Conservative, Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke, ON]

This is pathetic.

[James Bezan, Conservative, Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman, MB]

What's your suggestion, Chair?

[Darren Fisher, Liberal, Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS]

No, if we voted against—

[James Bezan, Conservative, Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman, MB]

“Public, televised” is out, right?

[Darren Fisher, Liberal, Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS]

With the one meeting, can we change “study” to briefing”, and we get the—

[The Chair, Liberal, Stephen Fuhr]

Are you moving to...

[An hon. member]

Just move it.

[The Chair, Liberal, Stephen Fuhr]

Is this a discussion, or do you want to move it?

[Darren Fisher, Liberal, Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS]

I'll move it, because I would like to hear from him. If we were to have him here for a one-meeting briefing—

[The Chair, Liberal, Stephen Fuhr]

In camera or public?

[Darren Fisher, Liberal, Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS]

In camera.

[The Chair, Liberal, Stephen Fuhr]

In camera. Are you moving that?

[Darren Fisher, Liberal, Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS]

It's a public report, and then we can dig into the report—

[The Chair, Liberal, Stephen Fuhr]

Okay, fair enough.

Then I understand you're moving an amendment to have a one—

[Mark Gerretsen, Liberal, Kingston and the Islands, ON]

To change the word “study” to “briefing” in camera.

[The Chair, Liberal, Stephen Fuhr]

To “briefing”. In camera is on the floor then.

Ms. Gallant.

[Cheryl Gallant, Conservative, Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke, ON]

Okay. Mr. Walbourne has made himself available to each one of us for a briefing so we could privately ask questions in our offices. We've already had the briefings. Now we want to have an official, open, public meeting. What is happening in the armed forces that you don't want us and the public to know about concerning the well-being of our military?