I would like to come back to Mr. Bastien's earlier point, from a Canadian Armed Forces perspective, about what we are doing for a cyber workforce way ahead. The policy was very clear that we shall stand up a cyber operator trade. As Mr. Bastien also mentioned, it's very exciting. The trade was stood up this summer, and we have our first members of that trade. The follow-on efforts will try to bring the reserve forces into that trade. They have also stood up a trade in the reserves to make sure that we get all the talent we can within that domain. That's moving ahead.
The next challenge is always going to be where we get the people and how we keep them. How do we attract, recruit, and retain them into that domain? That's an ongoing challenge that we're putting a great deal of energy into. To be quite frank, we are using different levels of thinking outside our standard ways of recruiting within the Canadian Armed Forces, because this is really a specialized group that we're paying close attention to.
I will come back to your specific question. As the available talent pool is so small, when contractors work for us, they are security-cleared and vetted to the appropriate level to do the work that we need done by them. From a security perspective, I'm not concerned about that. I need manpower who are qualified and willing to work within that domain. Contractors are a source, as are reserves and the regular force. I'm working with academia and industry on the broader concepts.