What I can talk about is what we're doing. From a policy perspective, Canada has a full-time cyber officer within NATO headquarters to help inform NATO policies. That's what we're doing. As Mr. Bastien talked about earlier, in multiple governance groups, we are participating in these smart defence projects. I would say that the contribution is not small, so maybe I misspoke earlier. I would like to clarify that a little bit. In the MN CD2 construct, for example, since about 2013, we've contributed over 900,000 euros to that common defence effort. I would not say that's small. It's a sizable contribution, not only in treasury terms but also in intellectual capacity, as we send individuals from Canada, qualified experts in a domain, to participate in a multinational forum to help everybody come to a better option for all of us together. I might have misspoken that maybe our footprint was small.
I will come back to one other point if I have time. One of the constraints in any cyber operations field, whether in government or industry or whatever you have, is HR. We are searching for qualified people to come to work for us. Where we put people, we do it very judiciously, person by person, and we choose venues where we can have the greatest impact for the greatest common good.