If I may follow up on that, earlier a colleague asked a similar question, and I wrote a note, which I want to contribute to the answer, around the reserve force and how exciting that is for us.
In my interactions with industry—we're significantly engaged in areas in which we are able to be—the discussion around cyber-talent is always a challenge, as it is for them as well. Given their industry base, they're able to pay some of the skilled people very well. It's very difficult for government to attract them to come over in the regular normal time as a public servant or as a regular force member. However, the interest in being a part-time cyber-operator for the Canadian Armed Forces is of great interest to industry and industry personnel whom I've engaged with.
As we learn and exploit how we're going to implement these new curriculums and these new criteria for being a cyber-operator, we're looking at creative ideas around using and leveraging the reserve force to get access to that industry talent, even if it's only on a part-time basis.