Well, the conversation has changed over the last year, because there is now an edge to it. As I said, there is a kind of quid pro quo: if you don't pay, you don't get the U.S. In a public statement in Pensacola in December, President Trump said, “I told the people of NATO standing right behind me while they were standing right behind me—they've been delinquent. They haven't been paying. I said, 'You gotta pay. You gotta pay. You gotta pay'—and now they've taken that in—because of that. And I guess I implied you don't pay we're out of there; right?”
That's pretty clear.