Well, there is a debate about this, about engagement with Pakistan, including a debate in Washington right now. The debate has always been around whether we should cut them off, not talk with them anymore, cease providing any kind of technical assistance or support. My personal view is that the right way to proceed is to actually engage them more, as Mr. Fadden was saying. Get closer to them. Don't cut your assistance. Keep talking to the generals. Engage at the political level. You want to be there. You want to do what you can to bring them along, to professionalize their armed forces, and so on, and to create a space to have discussions about these concerns that we may have around the potential for proliferation and so on.
I think the right way to proceed is not to push them away, but frankly to engage these countries. The NATO secretary general is certainly in a position to do that. There would be nothing wrong with a visit to Islamabad. Certainly in terms of our government of the day, there would be nothing untoward to regularly engaging with the Pakistanis at the political level in the same way.