I appreciate that.
Absolutely, this is part of the public education that Ms. Alleslev mentioned, which is that there is an industrial regional benefit component, an ITB, what have you, to defence that's not located just where the shipyard is, particularly with IP and IT.
Certainly I think your perspective on this, both of you, and particularly you, as a former Minister of National Defence, would be helpful because I agree that the life-cycle cost is what held up the F-35 sign-on in the previous government after the PBO released its report. It was hard to take out the cost of air crew, the cost of fuel for 40 years.
Do Canadians think of those costs when they buy their cars from the car lot? No, they don't.