NCIA does the “C3” for NATO. Its budget is relatively small, about $300 million a year. It is very difficult to get into NCIA, because it's very specialized in the C3 field. They have a lot of suppliers that have been there for years. My company, for instance, has been there for years and years. It is difficult for what I'm going to call the North Americans to get into NCIA, because it's almost all common-funded and therefore has very particular procurement rules.
NSPA is the big procurement agency that does projects that are given a title—NATO—and AFSC and AGS are both NSPA. All those really big, almost infrastructure defence projects go through NSPA, and almost all of them are also coalitions of the willing rather than NATO. If Canada is in the coalition, you will have all the access you need, and it is your national delegation who will know far more, actually, about the political and the financial end of those deals than will NATEX.
I cannot stress enough the importance of the national MOD, the national delegation, with the NATEX agency, working together. That is absolutely fundamental to success, and it would mean that your national companies would go to Ottawa to find out about these projects and the Canadian position, rather than having to travel all the way to Capellen in Luxembourg. I think that's really important for you to understand.