Thank you, Madam Chair.
On the amendment, I think it's important for the idea of process and what was used for vetting. I know the Liberals are trying to say this should have been discovered beforehand, but we know these allegations never came to light until 2018. To try to go back to 2015 and look at the vetting process at that point in time over allegations that weren't even known back in 2015, is a wild goose chase. I don't think you're going to find anything there. At the same time, we don't have anything to hide. We're expecting this.
Unlike what we've seen in the filibuster and people concerned about cover-ups and things like that, I would just say that we want to get this motion passed and the papers produced. It's interesting to hear Liberals at committee say we're going to expose the victims here. That is not true at all. Producing these papers and going through the law clerk to preserve the integrity of those investigations and protect those victims is the way we are going to be able to ensure that this is a respectful process and that all of us can have confidence, Madam Chair, that it provides the information we need to make the changes that are required.
It goes to the very top. It goes right to the minister and the minister's office on how these allegations were handled when they were brought before him. We all know that Gary Walbourne, the former ombudsman, had not provided the hard evidence to the minister in a physical or electronic manner. All we're talking about are conversations that happened between officials. Ultimately, at the end of the day, we'll be able to have a better picture of what went wrong.