Madam Chair, thank you. I'll be brief.
I would just reiterate that we're dealing with two things. We're dealing with the investigation of the conduct of two former chiefs of the defence staff. These are important issues and important questions.
We're also dealing with the overriding question, which is how to change the system. Again, the minister was very clear. He called for a complete and total culture change to restore trust in the Canadian Forces. I do not see in the motion as it's reflected even a reference to potential documents within the public service or elsewhere that have explored questions of culture change or how to achieve it within the Canadian Forces in the context of Operation Honour.
We're having a one-sided conversation. We're looking at one side of the problem. It's the side that's riskiest to the victim in this particular case—and to future victims—because of the perception that the minute an allegation is raised, there will be a scramble to score political points. The victim's safety and wishes are subordinated to the wishes of what I perceive to be the Conservative position at least.
We need to keep our eyes on that second, and in my view equally important, question, which is how we achieve culture change in the Canadian Forces. It would be great to have some ideas on how the committee could integrate the current state of knowledge in the civil service on that question and get some information from the witnesses who have been invited to address that.