Okay.
Ms. Sherman, further on that topic, perhaps you can provide examples of something you have witnessed. I am not necessarily asking you to comment specifically on the case of the Canadian Armed Forces, or even the Canadian context at all. I'm thinking about best practices. Others have faced these challenges, other institutions, not just in Canada but around the world, and have resolved them to some degree or to a great degree.
I'm hoping to learn from that. I think this committee needs to learn from that. Are there examples of best practices that you've seen that we should review?