Ms. Sherman came and explained the full process to this committee. She explained the process that they have. During this time, yes, there is a conversation that occurs, I think in the late fall, which I'm not disputing. I'm also stating that I don't get involved with pay. She also stated, “ministers do not set the pay.”
How you set the conversation up with Canadians, for whatever purpose, that's up to you, but I'm here to—