Madam Chair, as I explained in my opening remarks, for the information to be taken from PCO senior personnel to the NSIA, they would have to determine that, first of all, they had enough information to assess whether it was an administrative matter or involved security or criminality. If it's an administrative matter, there would be no need to involve the national security adviser.
If the issue at stake involves possibly security or criminality, they would have to have enough information to do this. As I think has been acknowledged by many of the witnesses last week, you had a situation where there was information that the ombudsman had been given in confidence. He was not prepared to share it. The person obviously had reasons, the fear of reprisal, and didn't want to bring that information forward. However, unless you find a way to try to get that information and decide, is that an administrative matter or something that is criminal in nature, and who is best to assess that...? As many of the witnesses have said, including the judge advocate and Mr. Lick, you also have to see, what—