This issue has popped up over the course of my tenure, with the pockets of resistance that you talked about. If those pockets cannot be brought along, cannot be educated—and often it's a case of education—and refuse to change for the betterment of the institution, they have to move along. That has happened in a number of cases. We talk about accountability, and I've seen some leaders removed because of that, because of their own attitudes, which are not aligned with the values we are espousing.
We talk about culture too. We need to be careful about change, because it's not complete. There are certain aspects to our culture that we absolutely have to retain—the willingness to put yourself in harm's way to protect others, the willingness to leave your family behind and go to the other side of the world to do good for this country and the willingness to follow orders and do what is asked of you. Those fundamentals we absolutely have to retain as part of who we are and as part of operational effectiveness, to deliver for Canada. However, there are other aspects, the harmful aspects. We have to continually identify and address those.