I mentioned Australia, but if you look internationally at the U.K., the EU and the U.S., they all have defence industrial strategies. It really provides industry the certainty on where to invest, on where the government is going and on where the country is going, because right now we're stuck in a cycle of a transactional approach to defence procurement. Without that strategy in place, how do you start to align all the different things that need to be discussed?
I was listening to the earlier panel, and workforce development is an example. You have the CAF struggling with that, and you also have industry struggling with that, but without that strategy in place to operationalize and institutionalize the aspirational parts of the defence policy update, we're left in that vacuum again of not knowing where to invest, where we're going to go and what the timelines are, and that's absolutely critical.