Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
We talked about human rights, but we also talked about trade between Canada and the Philippines. We're facing somewhat of a dilemma: Should we continue to trade with a country where there are human rights violations? However, if we stop trading with that country, we stop creating wealth there. We think that, in the long term, if we create wealth, more liberal policies will probably be put in place by a government. Some observers will say that.
How important is it to put human rights at the centre of our defence policies? At what point do we do that when we're trading with those same countries?