There are multilateral institutions. I'm not saying we co-operate with Russia. We should have a very realistic diplomatic engagement—again, working with our allies—because that relationship is quite fractured. We have to engage with these adversaries. We don't live in a world where we cannot engage with them.
I can understand how, for many communities in Canada, that's not something that's very palpable, but I think the reality of diplomacy is precisely that: We need to talk with adversaries, not just like-minded states.