I would say that in terms of the reserve, the mechanisms to bring them out and to solicit reservist volunteers to come and serve during disasters, in the rapid tempo in which the CAF has to deploy for a disaster response, is that something that...? Does it work that well? I think there are serious questions around that.
Again, to draw a parallel, this is a conversation Australia is also having, about how to use its reserve. In 2019 it actually called out the reserve for the first time. They had to respond. It's built into their defence legislation, so they're allowed to do it. I think there are questions around whether or not our reserve is structured to do that, how effectively they can do that and whether they have the training for that.
Again, if recruitment and retention is a concern, maybe building an organization outside of the Canadian Armed Forces might draw upon a perhaps much more diverse part of the population that does not want to join or serve in the CAF. I think there are lots of possibilities around the increased recruitment that potentially a civilian agency or a number of agencies could have that the military can't.