I think it depends on the role. I think it's cross-training. I don't think it's either/or; I think it's both, and training together using specific scenarios.
Many of our longer-term NGOs already have a history with the military, dating back to the first and second world wars, of going and supporting our troops, so a lot of those relationships are long-standing. I think it is about cross-training so that we can look at whether there are skills that the military can teach to NGOs that can help out, and whether the NGOs also can help to cross-train or identify who needs to do what so that it's a little clearer what capacities are available.