It's completely critical, but it's not just submarines. It's not a World War II scenario, where you have one unit. We are now in a warfare of systems, and it gets back to the point of whether or not we want to be part of the better American, Australian, Japanese surveillance capability, because that invariably ties in with what we used to refer to as the “anti-ballistic missile systems”. We are looking to determine where the missiles come in and defend against these various ones.
It's submarines, but it's also actually having our Asian friends take us seriously, which means commitment, which means that as the South Koreans, Japanese, Australians and Americans develop these systems of surveillance and then react against the Chinese in the coming conflict, they are prepared for us to in fact be playing a role in that context.
Hopefully this is something that the current committee that the government has assigned to understanding the Indo-Asia-Pacific region is, in fact, addressing very seriously, because it becomes one of the critical points.
As I said, I agree with General Eyre that the Chinese will be a threat. I disagree with his timeline. I think it will be much more immediate than what he is expecting, once again, on the important dependent of Taiwan.