Mr. Chair, I'd answer that question by saying it would be interesting to hear from CFINTCOM, in particular, on that, because that's the organization within DND that is most affected by developments.
What we've seen recently—it was highlighted in the defence “Strong, Secure, Engaged” strategy in 2017, and perhaps will be reinforced in the update, whenever that appears—is that the Canadian Armed Forces decided it needed a much enhanced capacity to engage in cybersecurity and have cyber-capabilities for its own offensive and defensive operations. It has been attempting to build up an independent, stand-alone capability in that regard under its own mandate. CSE has been able to assist it.
It's not so much that there are gaps between CSE and CFINTCOM, as I would understand it. It's more the question of how well the Canadian Armed Forces and, particularly, CFINTCOM have been able to build that cadre of cyberwarriors that they need.