Mr. Bezan, that's a very good question.
I think the fundamental challenge we face is that we have focused on playing defence, and as long as you play defence, by definition, you will never be able to score. That is to say, you cannot win the game. At the very best, you can play to a draw. When you're dealing with determined, malicious, hostile actors such as China and Russia, chances are they will score on you.
This is an opportunity for the Government of Canada to be more robust and muscular in demonstrating to those adversaries that certain types of behaviour will not be tolerated in cyberspace and will draw repercussions, whether those repercussions are in cyberspace or kinetic.