Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I'd like to thank the witnesses for their presentations. We have a concern—all of us do—with regard to security measures in this country, as well as privacy and our sovereignty as a nation.
My first question is for Mr. de Boer. When we look at the notion of IP and the commercialization of IP, and the ownership of the technologies, we see that Canada seems to do well at advancing.... In fact, Canada is a pretty good supplier of infrastructure and IT to other countries, and they themselves have noted we're lagging behind just by what they see happening in other jurisdictions. I believe the science and research committee is also looking at the commercialization of IP and how to get through that valley of death you mentioned.
The questions then become these: Who adjudicates some of these deals? How do we coordinate the private sector to facilitate that engagement with the academic sector? What role does this government have to play in this? You mentioned a couple of funds that were being proposed.
I'm still struggling, though, because the mindset we have, while it may seem reactive, is that it's also a means of necessity by which to come forward with new technology and new innovation and then protect it with ownership of the IP and the patent so that others can't use it. How do you make others accountable—and other countries accountable, for that matter—for escalating some of this? Is there a real sense of...? I mean, we have Five Eyes out there, but there are misbehaviours. How do you make them accountable?