As incompetent and ill-equipped as they are, they are still a significant fighting force that we should not take lightly. As I was relating to you earlier, the brutality and the scale of the impact in Ukraine of the Russian forces, whether it's Wagner or the Russian army, should not be forgotten in the stories of their technical incompetence.
It's the scale. It's the continued, relentless dispatch of these people, of these soldiers, and, as we said, the emptying of jails to create Russian brigades. These people are not professional soldiers, and they are murdering Ukrainian civilians. That is their instruction. That is an explicit strategy by the Russian military.