Thanks, Mr. Chair.
I'd like to begin by thanking both of our witnesses for being here to answer our questions today.
I don't mind who answers me first. They're general questions that I'd like answers from both of you on, if possible.
I'd like to know what your take is on the consequences of Ukraine losing this war. I know that in the beginning—and from the beginning—NATO stated that it would not go to war for Ukraine, as mentioned previously. Of course, NATO is trying to support in whatever way that it can with military equipment. What are the consequences, in your view, of Ukraine losing this war?
We've also heard a bit about the different opinions or the divergence that could occur between NATO allies. What are some of the ways that you believe we can stop that from happening? What are some ways that Canada, for example, could play a role in keeping countries together and on that right path?